Legislature(2007 - 2008)HOUSE FINANCE 519

03/27/2008 01:30 PM House FINANCE


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+ HB 50 CHILD PLACEMENT COMPACT TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 50(JUD) Out of Committee
+ HB 314 G.O. BONDS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed>
+ HJR 37 CONST AM: SEC. OF STATE REFERENCES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 37(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 419 STATE LEASE-PURCHASE AGREEMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 367 SALE OF RAW MILK PRODUCTS TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed>
+= HB 400 MITIGATING FACTOR: CARE FOR DRUG OVERDOSE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
<Bill Held Over from 3/26/08>
2:31:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 50                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act  relating  to the  Interstate  Compact  for  the                                                                   
     Placement  of   Children;  establishing   an  interstate                                                                   
     commission  for  the  placement  of  children;  amending                                                                   
     Rules  4 and 24,  Alaska Rules  of Civil Procedure;  and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RYNNIEVA MOSS,  STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE JOHN  COGHILL, directed                                                                   
her  comments to  Representative  Coghill's involvement  with                                                                   
the legislation.   She stated that HB 50  provides provisions                                                                   
for  adoption of  a new  Interstate  Child Placement  Compact                                                                   
(ICPC).    The  current ICPC  was drafted  in 1959 to  assure                                                                   
that children placed across state  lines were placed with the                                                                   
same protections and services  as children placed intrastate.                                                                   
Through the  years, it has become  evident that the  ICPC has                                                                   
resulted in unnecessary delays  in moving children across the                                                                   
state  lines,   lack  of   accountability  and  an   outdated                                                                   
administrative  process.   The  current ICPC  applies to  all                                                                   
interstate placements  such as  placement with relatives  and                                                                   
residential treatment centers,  not just placements involving                                                                   
children in state custody.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss  continued, the new compact  would hold states  to a                                                                   
higher standard  of duty, eliminating regulation  of children                                                                   
not in  state custody,  making provisions  for private  child                                                                   
placement  agencies and bringing  the administrative  process                                                                   
into current  times with  home study incentives,  definitions                                                                   
for  new terminology  requiring  consideration of  interstate                                                                   
placements,  cooperation  between  member states  in  sharing                                                                   
information and  providing foster parents  more participation                                                                   
in the process.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss  stated that  HB 50 provides  state child  placement                                                                   
agencies  and courts,  the tools  to  make faster  interstate                                                                   
placements and holds all parties  accountable for providing a                                                                   
safe, reliable home for children in out-of-state placement.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:34:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARSHA  PICKERING,   DEPUTY  COMPACT  ADMINISTRATOR,   SOCIAL                                                                   
SERVICES PROGRAM  COORDINATOR, OFFICE OF  CHILDREN'S SERVICES                                                                   
(OCS), DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND SOCIAL SERVICES,  addressed                                                                   
the  ICPC, which  attempts to  bring more  uniformity to  the                                                                   
process  because under  the current  compact,  the rules  and                                                                   
regulations that  have been developed were not  drafted under                                                                   
the Administrative  rule process.   The Department  wanted to                                                                   
determine accountability  for the  receiving state.   The new                                                                   
compact  offers  the opportunity  to  come  up with  rules  &                                                                   
regulations  that all  states  follow and  requirements  will                                                                   
include  enforcement.    There   would  also  be  a  required                                                                   
mediation structure, allowing  for lawsuits in federal court.                                                                   
The reprecosity  element  will be a  continuation of  current                                                                   
practice with more uniform guidelines.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pickering  noted that  the compact  has been endorsed  by                                                                   
the National Council  on State Human Services  & the National                                                                   
Association of  Public Child  Welfare Administration  & other                                                                   
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Pickering  commented that  another opportunity  under the                                                                   
ICPC will  be uniform data  collecting, sharing  & guidelines                                                                   
involving  tribal governments.    Under  the new  commission,                                                                   
the State would have opportunities  to actually work with the                                                                   
tribes  to determine  a mechanism  for the  placements.   The                                                                   
legislation  will  provide  for provisional  approval.    She                                                                   
commented  on the  length of  time it  takes for  placements.                                                                   
The  new compact  provides the  Division  the opportunity  to                                                                   
offer  provisional   approvals  based  on   local  background                                                                   
checks.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Pickering  added  that  the   new  compact  deletes  the                                                                   
requirement for  parents to go  through the compact  to place                                                                   
their  children  in residential  treatment  centers.   It  no                                                                   
longer  applies  to  foreign  adoptions  or  families  making                                                                   
decisions  among  themselves  regarding  the  placement  with                                                                   
someone  that is not  an actual  relative but  a part  of the                                                                   
family.  The compact will require  a State advisory committee                                                                   
for oversight, which will be represented  from each branch of                                                                   
government.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:40:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  asked about  the  fiscal  costs.   Ms.                                                                   
Pickering anticipated  two years for all states  to enact the                                                                   
legislation;  it  will  take approximately  another  year  to                                                                   
determine  the rules  and  regulations.   At  that time,  the                                                                   
Department  will be  able  to determine  what  is needed  for                                                                   
compliance and the associated costs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked if thirty-four other states  would need                                                                   
to  approve before  going into  effect.   Ms. Pickering  said                                                                   
yes.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara asked  if the proposed  compact  had the                                                                   
same language  as the one put  before the other states.   Ms.                                                                   
Pickering said it  was the same with the addition  of statues                                                                   
to support the  provision to renumber.  Ms.  Moss interjected                                                                   
that the provision that was renumbered  was an indirect court                                                                   
rule that applies only to the State of Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:42:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC TESTIMONY CLOSED                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Moss  noted that  the sponsor decided  to hold  the first                                                                   
draft of  the compact as he  wanted to be guaranteed  that it                                                                   
would not  supersede State law  and wanted to make  sure that                                                                   
any  threat to  State sovereignty  was  eliminated.   Through                                                                   
negotiations  with  the  Division,   language  concerns  were                                                                   
removed.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:43:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked   if  those  comments  had  been                                                                   
directed  to Page  2,  the Department  of  Health and  Social                                                                   
Services fiscal note reference  to tribes.  Ms. Moss said no;                                                                   
however, the old  version stated that regulations  adopted by                                                                   
the  commission  would supersede  State  law.   She  provided                                                                   
examples of language  that had been removed.   Representative                                                                   
Kelly  asked assurance  that was  no longer  a concern.   Ms.                                                                   
Moss agreed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:44:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  referenced  the  Department  of  Health  and                                                                   
Social Services fiscal note.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MIKE   LESMANN,  COMMUNITY   RELATIONS,   OFFICE   CHILDREN'S                                                                   
SERVICES  (OCS), DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES,                                                                   
explained  the fiscal note,  which does  reflect that  in the                                                                   
first  two  fiscal   years,  OCS  would  not   be  requesting                                                                   
additional resources;  beginning in  2011, that would  change                                                                   
depending on ratification of the thirty-four other states.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  mentioned the  size  of  the note  and                                                                   
asked  what would  happen if  it was  not passed.   Ms.  Moss                                                                   
pointed out that the fiscal notes  reflect the administration                                                                   
of the  commission.   She did not  believe that they  "fairly                                                                   
reflect" that and less expense  would be incurred by OCS from                                                                   
the  quickness of  placement,  putting  children with  family                                                                   
rather than  into foster homes.   She reiterated,  the fiscal                                                                   
note does not adequately reflect the real fiscal impact.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kelly  asked  if  the  sponsor  believes  the                                                                   
actual   cost  would   be  lower.     Ms.   Moss  said   yes.                                                                   
Representative  Kelly advised  that family  should be  taking                                                                   
care of  these concerns  and that  they should  not be  paid.                                                                   
Ms. Moss responded that there  are incidences where the State                                                                   
does pay family in situations  which the children have either                                                                   
physical or mental  problems that need medical  attention and                                                                   
Medicaid assistance.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:48:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Hawker  MOVED to REPORT CS HB 50  (JUD) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB 50  (JUD) was  reported out  of Committee  with a  "do                                                                   
pass" recommendation and with  zero note #1 by the Department                                                                   
of Administration  and fiscal  note #2  by the Department  of                                                                   
Health and Social Services.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                

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